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Post by Champ on Sept 11, 2010 1:45:15 GMT -4
Mew, you and I continue to view the way this fandom has expanded it's universe in entirely different ways. I can't speak for the fandom as a whole, but we've done several interesting things with the characters on this forum. Yeah, I know, few of these developments are permanent, but it's because one of two things happen. 1.The development doesn't work and it ruins our ability to tell stories. 2.The development doesn't make any sense with how the characters actually act so we throw it out because it's nonsense. I don't dislike the original characters, and I think that Tremorton actually proves that sometimes using the setting of the show as a basis and then building unique original characters around it works out pretty nicely. Where mlaatr is sort of 2-dimensional, we have a large, fairly deep universe(it's not the DCU or anything, but it's definitely deeper than most fan-verses)that just keeps expanding. I also disagree with you on your critique of Rob. Yes, because of him MLAATR doesn't meet it's potential, but you can't fault him for thinking of it as "just a cartoon". Because, in the grand scheme of things, it IS just a cartoon. It's not supposed to be anything more than a cartoon, and since he wasn't actually hired to write something deep and complicated he decided to just keep it simple. Does that mean that he didn't waste the show's potential? No, but we shouldn't demonize him for it. The fact of the matter is that without Rob, there is no Mlaatr, so we should be thankful for that if nothing else. I have the same problem with your complaints I have with the Firefly fans who speculate about what could have happened if that show had gotten a second season, and that's that it's pointless to sit and complain about the show we didn't get, we just need to appreciate the strengths and weaknesses with the show we ACTUALLY got.
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Post by mrnibbles on Sept 11, 2010 3:43:10 GMT -4
Alright... first things first... I didn't read all of your posts but I read enough to see I was in the wrong. Secondly, sorry for snapping. I'm going through a lot in my life and our animation team that's working on the MLaaTR cartoon is crumbling and I'm really stressed out about something with my girl, so I may have taken my frustration out on the wrong people. Like I said, you people who commented are not the ones at fault its the other 200 some-odds that left and never came back. And I must say sorry mostly to Zero and the other mods. I forget that our lives get in the way of our friendships sometimes. To me the industry is dying and I'm leading an army of one to keep it from dissolving into pulpy failure... MLaaTR is Nostalia mostly... it had great potential that it never took, I felt our show was the one chance to USE that potential but we're failing.... we need help guys. But one last thing... I haven't seen some of you guys post in a while... how come it takes an angry rant to get you fired up. "True MLaaTR fan hate MLaaTR" Kockroach once said... I think thats a lie... cause if you guys didn't like the show, then why the f*ck are you here??? Speaking of which, why the f*ck is Terminator still allowed here? This is the first angry thing I've ever posted and I'm APPOLOGIZING about it. Hey Terminator, I know it your sad little country off in the North may not have similar "rules" to us, but we have a name for your kind, bullies. And you know what? There's NO tollerance for it. >:/
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Post by Terminator on Sept 11, 2010 4:34:08 GMT -4
Facepalm.
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Post by Champ on Sept 11, 2010 4:42:12 GMT -4
To be honest, the only reason he hasn't been punished is that there's no admins around right now. Just ignore him for now, I'm sure Z or Tachyon will deal with him when they get back.
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Post by Armystuntman on Sept 11, 2010 12:46:46 GMT -4
Zoomer, Zander, Champ, Jessie, Hunter, Omnios, KaseyKockroach, sk200, Armystuntman, Jakob, Power9x hell even 14-bisTHESE are fans. THESE are the inspiration we need. If you people stick around for one GOD DAMN second and give the animation team composed of now only Zander and I a CHANCE then MAYBE, MAYBE a spark of hope will be instilled in your hopless black hearts. You know why people lefy\t the fandom? Because of PEER PREASURE. Remember BradBrandin? He animated very few unrelated episodes before, on his own. It was HE, in the first place, attempted to make a animated episode of MLAATR and Tremorton. He didn't leave due to peer pressure. It was the others who said, "Sure! I'll help!" and then they never gave their freaking lines that pissed him off. It wasn't peer pressure that made him leave, it was the lack of will as, you correctly say, most people have here to get a animation up and running. I suggest giving him credit as he was one of the first people I know who made a MLAATR fan animation about the fanchars of Tremorton. And you (in general) completely left him in the dust and forgot him. He even asked to help you in the animations, but that was also forgotten. If he was thrown into the dust that way, your animation might too, and in the exact same way. People will say "I wanna help" and then they don't. Edit: "our animation team that's working on the MLaaTR cartoon is crumbling" Thats strange, BradBradinski actually PRE-MADE the chars including Jenny, Mrs wakeman, Brad, Tuck, and OC's as NR-5, Tachyon, Plans_Neon, Bradinski himself, Scooter, Zero and Jessie. ( www.newgrounds.com/dump/item/e669b741df0508ba2440f08ba4936863 ) And he even PRE-MADE FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND HAND POSES ON THEM. And it seems that you haven't even started the animation. Here's a idea, make a story or whatever and team up with BradBradin with flash. It really seems to me that you'd need his help. I have contact with him and can tell him if you accept him. All I need is to be told to.
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Post by mrnibbles on Sept 11, 2010 14:05:22 GMT -4
For one I said "A few more unmentioned." my quote was out of context. Secondly, Ignore this poo pooe, my hate rant was more towards our lead artist and the other admins on Facebook that was the primary source of my anger.... but anyway... like I said, ignore my rant. It was mostly steam,.
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Post by Armystuntman on Sept 11, 2010 15:42:37 GMT -4
Edited my post, mrnibs, look please.
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Post by bradbradin on Sept 11, 2010 16:05:03 GMT -4
Armystuntman told me to come, and I'm surprised to see this. Actually wait, NO I'm not at all. You should grumble about how people would love to see certain things immensely but won't spend 20 minutes of their life doing something that will help an animator accomplish something they will smile widely for.
In this forum I was widely ignored in my efforts to make an animated series involving YOUR CHARACTERS. Tell me. Why should I help you all in making some mediocre animation attempts if nobody is even going to help me, besides Armystuntman? Are people here ACTUALLY going to help me now? Is it worth another try, or shall I go back to doing other things? I will leave this fandom again if I don't get any help, because there are loads of other things in life that I'd love to try as well.
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Post by mrnibbles on Sept 11, 2010 17:22:48 GMT -4
Bradbradin... I ask you to contact me... you never did. So you know what, I'm not going to bow down to you... but I will solemnly ask you for your help... for one reason: Portfolio work... if you don't sharpen your teeth somewhere you're never going to progress in the field. This project, infact all projects are nut busters... and we need to really dig deep to see if we want to work on this... if you don't give a damn , then please dont hesitate to say "no". But if even a slight inkling of hope, drive and passion remains, then please, join us... I am passionate, Armystuntman is passionate, Zander is passionate, and deep down I know you're passionate... its up to you to prove me wrong or not.
And I said I was SORRY. I'm close to deleting this topic because I was angsty and angry... I appologized... I realize I made a mistake by calling names. But at least I feel BAD about it.
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Post by swoop on Sept 12, 2010 1:09:46 GMT -4
After years and false leads I feel wary. There’s been talk of could be active again. what will the movie be called anyway? XJ-10 was first talk as a joke when her sisters were introduce but when we seen her blue prints of her during the Christmas special when Jenny was being hunt down dead or alive. She was to be the replacement. That twisted, when the hero was being hunted down by nearly everyone and her mom was planning on replaceing her. All this happen in for a Christmas special. In the Movie Escape from Cluster Prime we saw more of Vexus mothering side. We started it seeing it hostile makeover. The robot called her mother which brings more questions. She saw Jenny in the beginning as person that should join the Cluster. She tried many methods for bringing Jenny to her side not any methods of destroying her. She wanted reform her after earth’s takeover or destruction. The cluster councilor stated that robots androids and cyborgs live peacefully in the planet. It is shown that good society. They viewed Jenny as a monster and thought she stole the power chips by propaganda. Most of them are good people. It’s not a dark domain of evil for most villains. There was talk of human being their slaves but guessing that was future plans. It is in the continuity with the series and we major changes in the third season. Vexus was willing to kill her in the third season. She lost her sanity when she was no longer the leader and banish from the Cluster. She needs someone to rule. And we saw change in her character design havin large legs to make up for her wing being busted. the movie will show
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Post by Armystuntman on Sept 12, 2010 6:34:31 GMT -4
Bradbradin... I ask you to contact me... you never did. So you know what, I'm not going to bow down to you... but I will solemnly ask you for your help... for one reason: Portfolio work... if you don't sharpen your teeth somewhere you're never going to progress in the field. This project, infact all projects are nut busters... and we need to really dig deep to see if we want to work on this... if you don't give a damn , then please dont hesitate to say "no". But if even a slight inkling of hope, drive and passion remains, then please, join us... I am passionate, Armystuntman is passionate, Zander is passionate, and deep down I know you're passionate... its up to you to prove me wrong or not. Out of point. Bradinski can actually make a animation, but everyone just didn't help him to voice act their own chars, its not about passion or hard labor, its the fact everyone left him in the dust in his project that made him leave. It's a fact, at the moment he can do better than your animator, or rather, he can actually animate. But instead of asking someone higher than you to help, instead you just want Zander to wander with his new costy program. And your lead artist, i forgot i think something happened to him. If you don't want his help, I doubt anyone else is going to help you, like they completely disregarded him. Good luck and cheerio. Edit: And he posted in your topic asking to be your animator showing a past animation he did but couldn't finish due to some people here. He did ask to help you but you said "Ill make it a back up plan bla bla bla" which men't NOHeck yah, things happening behind our back.
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Post by bradbradin on Sept 12, 2010 6:52:35 GMT -4
Things taking a turn for the good. I'm going to practice animation in Flash again by making a animation short involving our OCs titled "Voice Actor Deficiency Syndrome".
When I'm done from warming up, I'll post a topic on all the lines required by which characters for the first episode: "Zero Says - Don't do Drugs", unless Zander and MrNibbles decide otherwise.
Thumbs up for you people. Big chances are you'll see cartoons with your own characters in them.
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Post by mrnibbles on Sept 12, 2010 18:28:47 GMT -4
We don't have a true title for the first episode of Tremorton Chronicles but its mostly going to be setting the scene and introducing a few new characters, but the OC's, no offense guys, are really gonna be minor characters. We're talking speaking roles in no more than a few episodes. (Villain OC's exempt... because, duh, they're villains.)
And yea, we do have a set plan for the series and its pretty mapped out with some area to play with in between.
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Post by Armystuntman on Sept 13, 2010 3:30:31 GMT -4
Tmaking a animation short involving our OCs titled "Voice Actor Deficiency Syndrome". When I'm done from warming up, I'll post a topic on all the lines required by which characters for the first episode: "Zero Says - Don't do Drugs", unless Zander and MrNibbles decide otherwise. Nibs, I'd honestly rather have funny ideas like this quote than a serious series, really. POLL TIME.
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Post by Jakob on Sept 19, 2010 3:25:16 GMT -4
Personally, I think the series' weakest point was that it completely failed in the Rule of Bruce.
-Vexus is an ignoramus who didn't know what to do with her power, nor did she know how to use it right. -Doc Wakeman's not even close to being suited for a military career- past or future. -Skyway Patrol is inefficient and full of idiots. -Aliens aren't really explored upon. -Sheldon's a technophile stalker who seriously needs to be rehabbed. -Brad's a relatively bland moron. -Tuck's an adrenaline junkie. -Misty's a liability to the point where I'm even reminded of Jayne from Firefly. (Adam Baldwin kicked ass as Animal Mother, but in Firefly... I hated that character, and I use that character as one of my many arguments on how Joss Whedon isn't all-mighty like almost everyone says he is.) -Krust Cousins have NO real motivation that's worthwhile beyond High School, thus marking them CRIMINALLY INSANE. -Smytus is a complete noob. -Krakus is the only real threatening villain throughout the entire show, but he's ultimately inefficient and seriously needs to improve on the aspect os durability in his gadgets. -And XJ-9 herself is schizophrenic beyond belief.
These ain't children cartoon characters, Dr. Renzetti.
You know what? The reason I liked it so much was because the art style was striking and interesting through and through, the voice acting was better than the tripe that made me want to claw my own ears off, and it left so much room to maneuver in terms of fanfiction... Although when I wrote my crappy one, I turned XJ-9 into a tertiary character and made a villain that actually DID follow the Rule of Bruce.
Still an interesting show when it all comes down to it.
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