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Post by Zero on Mar 11, 2010 0:21:02 GMT -4
Healthcare reform has been a recurring issue in the USA, especially since it is not universal.
What's your take?
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Post by Zoomer on Mar 11, 2010 0:56:46 GMT -4
We should just adopt a modified Canadian or Japanese system, with slightly higher taxes and subsidized payment of doctors by the government (so they would still get competitive pay for their work).
So, basically, Universal Health Care would be best, but there's actually not going to be much change at this point.
LOL Republicans, they were sitting around the corner just stretching out the piano wire, waiting for the Democrats to trip..... X(
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Post by Jakob on Mar 11, 2010 10:18:27 GMT -4
I live in Canada. I highly doubt health care in the States would be much of a problem, unless I move down to the States for whatever reason.
However, said "whatever reason" would involve Hollywood, or maybe Bungie. That means I'll be working on things that'll get me the big bucks, hopefully.
Said "Big Bucks" will easily be able to pay for a good doctor. But EVEN THEN, I wouldn't worry too much. You will never find me full-blown sick to the point where doctors are necessary.
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Post by Zero on Mar 11, 2010 17:15:03 GMT -4
So Canada has universal healthcare. Do you think it's socialist? Why and how does it work? Can it be done in America?
What do you think is the problem with the current reform being offered?
I don't like that the public option was removed. Remember that the republicans are responsible for that removal. With a government public option, more people would be able to purchase health insurance. Yes, this would mean that the government would be in competition with insurance companies. Yes, the low price of that insurance would cause loss to the insurance companies. Therefore, the public option was opposed.
However, such an option would have forced that insurance companies to lower their prices just to compete. The benefits would have been the same. They would have gotten more customers. The wealthy may have gotten money back too! How much money are they sitting on by not?
The only reasons I could deduce from the opposition are greed and indifference. Insurance bigs don't want to lower prices and probably lose whatever lavish lifestyle they're living. The wealthy just don't care for those in need. I read comments in the paper all the time, where the working poor and middle class are often referred to as "leeches" and "undeserving". How evil people can be.
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Post by tachyon on Mar 14, 2010 19:03:07 GMT -4
I'd just like to point out that Australia has something not unlike universal health care, wherein the government will pay for doctor consultations and some medical treatments under the Medicare sceme, especialy for low income earners, the unemployed, the elderly, the disabled and veterans (the latter 3 have their own scemes also). Every Australian is entitled to Medicare, though some opt instead for private health insurance. I personally have both Medicare and private health insurance, as the public hospital system here is, for want of a better word, crap, and I'd rather pay to stay in a private hospital and be treated sooner than wait for years on a public hospital waiting list. But thats a problem with hospitals and not with health insurance.
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Post by Zero on Mar 14, 2010 19:40:19 GMT -4
So you think hospitals give preferential treatment?
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Post by tachyon on Mar 14, 2010 19:58:01 GMT -4
Not based on money, based on how bad the case is and how urgent. The problem here is that we've got too few doctors, nurses, and beds. They have to prioritize the cases which means long waiting times for those with non-life-threatening conditions, and even waiting for those with not-as-life-threatening-as-the-next-guy conditions. A lot of people die or end up going overseas for treatment rather than bother with the public hospitals. As goes the old joke here, "if you're gonna get sick, make sure it's on holiday". Private care is expensive (sometimes prohibitively so) but the waiting times are shorter. At least thats how it goes here.
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Post by mlaatrloverkid on May 12, 2010 9:14:53 GMT -4
I heard that the gov. passed a law on healthcare for illegals or something like that, shouldnt the U.S.A be focusing on more pressing issues in our country? Like illegal immigration and the AWFUL present state of our nations economy!? We are just digging deeper into debt people! Sheesh! (Couldn't help but wonder, what does this issue have to do with MLaatr anyway? )
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Post by Zoomer on May 12, 2010 14:46:44 GMT -4
Topics don't all have to be MLAATR.....we can talk about anything in the boards not designated as such. Also, yeah....Obama-care is not enough. I just think a modified version of the Japanese health care system would be best, with a higher set profit for doctors in the US version. I won't explain the plan in detail though. That's what wikipedia is for. XD
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Post by Zero on May 12, 2010 20:06:57 GMT -4
There is no coverage for illegals. Just because someone says it's a lie doesn't make it so. The Republicans have been very vicious lately.
Based on the coverage I've seen, the argument against reform has only been filled with scare tactics and lies. I wonder how intelligent the GOP believes us to be. It is no secret in history that anyone who has tried to help those in need have only been met with revile.
We have to smart about what we hear and not bend to the outcry of fanatics.
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Post by Supergub on Jun 6, 2010 5:45:02 GMT -4
I would express my opinion, but I'd probably alienate myself from all of you guys and gals. Trust me, I am politically radical. Not the type to hurt someone, but my views are not typical of the average American.
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