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Post by OT on Apr 8, 2008 20:33:12 GMT -4
I don't judge what you are going to do in the future. I'm judging the rules you lay down here and the not-so-very-flattering perspective you have of us members of the forum.
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Post by Zero on Apr 8, 2008 20:37:20 GMT -4
The rules? Why didn't you just tell me that?
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Post by OT on Apr 8, 2008 20:38:26 GMT -4
Jeez, did you read my posts or did you just assume I was attacking your character or something?
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Post by Zero on Apr 8, 2008 20:40:36 GMT -4
I read all you posts in detail, and they made no mention of the rules. You only referred to me, so I was lead to believe you were attacking my character.
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Post by OT on Apr 8, 2008 20:43:11 GMT -4
I don't know what to say or if I should take that seriously. You made this thread where you stated new rules for the forum that says you are omnipotent, you have no responsibilities to us members and us members have basically no rights. Who did you think I would talk about? Aidan?
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Post by Zero on Apr 8, 2008 20:49:40 GMT -4
I wanted to cover all the bases, is all.
To put it all in a nutshell: I respect you and you respect me. This forum is for you, but I don't want to be pushed around either.
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Post by OT on Apr 8, 2008 20:53:37 GMT -4
I wanted to cover all the bases, is all. To put it all in a nutshell: I respect you and you respect me. This forum is for you, but I don't want to be pushed around either. I never said you should be pushed around, and no one on here would do that either. I reacted when your previous posts said that us members are equal to mud and have no rights.
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Post by Zero on Apr 8, 2008 20:59:37 GMT -4
I NEVER said you were mud! How did you conclude that?
I felt taken advantage of. If anyone is feeling like mud, it's ME.
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Post by OT on Apr 8, 2008 21:13:50 GMT -4
Who do you feel taken advantage of by? The members who have been faithful to this site or the trolls? And who are you taking it out on? Translation:I don't really care about the people on this forum.. and those who appreciate what I do are the ones who will stay. Translation:..unless they agree with me. That's the only reason they would stay anyways. That's what you said, and while I don't know if thats how you think I can only judge you by what you type. Yes, I am grateful that you have made this place and are still running it, but I don't come by here pretty much everyday just for you. The only responsibility I have is to make sure the rules are followed and the members are kept safe from harmful material. Like I've been saying all the time, not having any rights is also a prime way of feeling like mud.
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Post by Tim on Apr 8, 2008 21:16:45 GMT -4
knock it off! both of you!
XJ-0: you got screwed by Ryota, all right? now you're cracking down. i get that. what OT has a problem with is the perception of you being the Benevolent Dictator. he feels that members won't get a fair say anymore
OT: members still have a say in what goes on on this site, but XJ-0 is the final authority here. we have rights still. i trust XJ-0 enough that i'm not afraid of not being able to do anything.
if this argument continues, i will finally assert my powers and lock this thread, consent or not. you work this out in PM's.
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Post by OT on Apr 8, 2008 21:19:19 GMT -4
knock it off! both of you! Why? We're not savages. We're discussing this in a civil manner, however if XJ-0 feels like I have offended him then he must know I never intended it. This is an important matter for me, and in my opinion the whole forum. Why shouldn't this discussion go on, and why shouldn't it be public when it concerns the public?
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Post by critter on Apr 8, 2008 21:21:44 GMT -4
I kind of like reading this discussion, it seems important.
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Post by Tim on Apr 8, 2008 21:21:58 GMT -4
you're right, my bad. this was going to turn into a fight though, i'm sure of it.
i was a bit hasty, but still. i'm going to reread this entire thread and see if i can't work everything out, alright?
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Post by Tim on Apr 8, 2008 21:28:15 GMT -4
okay, i'd say i fully understand now.
from what i've read, it looks like OT is saying that we no longer have the right to argue with XJ-0. and he has a point. the new rules basically say "my way or the highway." and as it is impossible to agree with someone all the time, i'd say that it's gonna be the highway for many of us pretty soon.
unless, of course, XJ-0 can prove that this is not the case.
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Post by Zero on Apr 8, 2008 21:29:48 GMT -4
You told me this would not be a forum without members.
I meant change happens.
I meant they would stay because they don't have a problem with the site. If they don't agree, fine. Most likely they will leave on their own. I don't have to do anything unless I really need to, like in the case of trolls.
The site is what you all make of it. Your rights are intact. The responsibility on me is to make sure your rights are not violated by others. It's MY headache. The members should enjoy the site, not stress over it like I have to.
To answer your first question, I felt taken advantage of by the trolls. I was also bothered by the stone cold silence of my supporters(if some did defend me, sorry I may have missed it).
If you see something wrong and you don't say anything, that is tacit.
I understand you don't want to offend me. I just want to be clear.
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