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Post by critter on Apr 25, 2008 19:29:25 GMT -4
How do you magically know my point of view? You haven't even spoken with me much, so I don't feel it's fair to make that claim.
I don't rest blame with one person. I don't even know who'd I'd want to place blame on. :/
I don't know enough to even blame a single person. I'm not an expert on this place and the people in it. Far from it.
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Post by Bella on Apr 25, 2008 19:35:57 GMT -4
... What? Since when did I say then/see that in my point of view, Zero?
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Post by Zero on Apr 25, 2008 19:39:38 GMT -4
I wasn't specific enough. I really thought you knew, we even discussed it before. Don't you remember?
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Post by critter on Apr 25, 2008 19:43:42 GMT -4
I think there are more issues here then just the Ryo issues, honestly.
But like I said, I'm not sure I understand it all exactly. I try to stay uninvolved since I don't understand as well as the rest of you do.
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Post by Zero on Apr 25, 2008 19:44:45 GMT -4
Okay, I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression. I didn't mean to.
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Post by critter on Apr 25, 2008 19:48:56 GMT -4
It's okay. :3 I think I was honestly getting the wrong ideas myself. Lots of issues are making me a tad jumpy as of late. Not used to such forum drama here.
I think we're all clear now though.
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Post by Zero on Apr 25, 2008 20:07:26 GMT -4
As far as this issue goes:
My mind is made up, but I will NOT force them on you.
I'm going into the city tonight. I check this out tomorrow.
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Post by Tim on Apr 25, 2008 20:10:45 GMT -4
this one is my fault. i should'nt've locked that thread.
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Post by falkun on Apr 25, 2008 20:50:03 GMT -4
These idots, huh? Well, the only reason I hate denates is that I think its stupid to fight back and forth other something. Like everyone else, I'm gonna miss you, OT. I really did like you on here. Geez....*sulks* Why do I have to loose friends over some damn internet drama...?! no, mine and ot's debated were always friendly.
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Post by White Lightning on Apr 25, 2008 21:13:57 GMT -4
I know that. I still hate to lose someone over stuff on the internet. OT was like a brother to me.
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Post by falkun on Apr 25, 2008 21:16:31 GMT -4
These idots, huh? Well, the only reason I hate denates is that I think its stupid to fight back and forth other something. Like everyone else, I'm gonna miss you, OT. I really did like you on here. Geez....*sulks* Why do I have to loose friends over some damn internet drama...?! also, i hate to do this here; but debates has a b, not an n
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Post by White Lightning on Apr 25, 2008 21:17:33 GMT -4
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Post by OT on Apr 25, 2008 21:34:27 GMT -4
I think YOU'RE the one who thinks your infallible. See, if I thought I was infallible it wouldn't be such a biggie. But you are the admin of this site, and sure act like you are infallible. You make all the decisions for the forum, and never need to know what the public thinks of it because you know it's the right choice. I don't know if you really think you're infallibe and don't really care that much. What do you think you would do with admin power? You would probably end up the same as me, or Mimi. This is a good argument. Good in that you can use it anytime, anywhere and on any person you like. Let's take some examples: XJ-0: "What do you think you would do with admin power, Hunter? You would probably end up the same as me, or Mimi." XJ-0: "What do you think you would do with admin power, sonicheroes4ever? You would probably end up the same as me, or Mimi." XJ-0: "What do you think you would do with admin power, Ryota? You would probably end up the same as me, or Mimi." Now if you'd have something to back that claim up, then it might have been a little impressive. But let's look at what I've been arguing against - mods overusing their powers. So if you would judge how I would be as a mod on my statements I would be very passive. But, and this is the important thing, I would be able to speak freely and allow others too. And then again, if the above scenario would be true, wouldn't that be good for you XJ-0? To have one of those little XJ-0 clones you've spoken about? Ryota wants me dead and out of the picture. Are you gonna let it come to that? haha what? Are you saying I want you dead? Or why did you bring that old stuff up? You can say over and over that this site will fall becuase of me, but people will keep coming and appreciate it for what it is. Yeah, now the fact is that I didn't say any of that. I do think you harm this site though with some of your methods. And again, what the heck of an mentality is that? It's like you're running a restaurant, and hey, why should we dish the plates after people has eaten on them? There will still always come people to this restaurant! Why even prepare the meals for them? For you to question thier motives and accuse them of being followers and fearful of me, is the greatest insult you could deal to the members. No, I think you've already delivered the greatest insult to the members, assuming us to be uncivilized and ignorant. What does it take to just HOLD ON to peace. Do you all even KNOW what you want? Do you even know what RIGHT is anymore? At one time it was simple, but when we started to redefine what "right" was, the line became obscured. These are all pretty words, but doesn't really mean anything relative to the situation we have here. Unless if "the time when it was simple" refers to the days I wasn't a member of this board and Ryota wasn't acting like he does nowadays. I'm NOT giving up, and neither should you OT. Give me one reason why I shouldn't. I'm at the bottom. You're at the top. Anything I'm gonna say to you isn't gonna get through. Last time I debated with you back and forth til we agreed with eachother, I didn't just think I was making progress, I thought this site was making progress. And now two days ago all of those rules we both had agreed on was blown away into dust. It's easy for a king to tell one of his peons to "keep fighting lad, and one day you'll achieve your dreams!" from the top of his castle. And thanks to everyone else who posted in this thread. I really like you people and I'm glad you enjoyed my time on here.
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Post by Zero on Apr 25, 2008 22:35:24 GMT -4
That's a stuck up attitude.
That's a false assuption.
The poll was clear. The members trust me, and I trust them.
Then there's no point in me defending myself.
You want backup? You just got it.
I was NOT the one that made that comment. If I didn't allow people to speak freely, this coversation wouldn't be happening.
I never said that either, you only suggestted I do.
We all were on the same page, and enjoyed the forum, until selfish individuals wanted to ahve things thier way and challanged what was already a good way.
NOTHING I have said has reached you. I LISTENED and made sacrifices, even scaled back the rules greatly.
And since when are YOU the judge of this forum's progress? Now you have a chance to make this place better. Now your at the top, and I'm NOT gonna get in your way. That's a PROMISE. You have the power to do whatever you think will make this forum a better place, even change the rules and the forum layout. Everything is at your hand now.
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Post by Hunter on Apr 25, 2008 22:39:37 GMT -4
Oh great. Two people who hate each other's guts, and now they're both admins. What is this, The Odd Couple?
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