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Post by Zero on Apr 28, 2008 23:19:28 GMT -4
I'm not to stubborn to admit that I'm wrong every now and then.
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Post by OT on Apr 28, 2008 23:22:13 GMT -4
I'm not gonna bite.
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Post by Zero on Apr 28, 2008 23:25:02 GMT -4
No, not neccessarily.
I'm done with this thread now.
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Post by OT on Apr 28, 2008 23:27:12 GMT -4
Ok. I changed my mind. Let's do this.
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Post by Zero on Apr 28, 2008 23:33:33 GMT -4
Why, if I may ask?
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Post by OT on Apr 28, 2008 23:40:20 GMT -4
No, I'm not gonna answer another question you can spin another endless debate from. You got a thread for yourself to go bananas in, I think that's enough.
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Post by candyrobot on Apr 29, 2008 22:03:08 GMT -4
Oh yeah! Aren't you awesome, now that you're an admin? Ph...
No way!
You will never replace XJ-Zero!
Try to be Helpful! Don't change the rules!!!
Everything on this Forum is fine the way it is!
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Post by critter on Apr 29, 2008 22:09:22 GMT -4
Candy, this was Zero's decision anyway.
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Post by Bella on Apr 29, 2008 22:11:35 GMT -4
Candy, this was Zero's decision anyway. Yeah. Read before you stroll in, Candy.
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Post by Zero on Apr 29, 2008 22:23:37 GMT -4
My decision in allowing him to do this was see if he could run the site better than I.
In one way he cannot. He's not willing to be judged, and doesn't have sound reasoning ability. In this he failed. But he still has plenty of time to adapt.
In another way, he is just the same as I. He is dependant on the forum members. It is just as I have been saying; you don't need power to have a big impact.
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Post by critter on Apr 29, 2008 22:28:32 GMT -4
I shall not compare Zero and OT's abilities as admins, I don't think I've seen enough of either of you to dare to compare. So far though I think OT is doing okay. We can't really judge someone who's been an admin for what.. a day? And I haven't been around too long so I doubt I know your abilities too well, Zero. I try not to judge when I don't have right to judge.
The point of my comment was that it's kind of ridiculous to complain when this is the path Zero himself chose. It's not like OT pushed Zero to the ground and wrestled the power away. You gave this power to him.
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Post by Zero on Apr 29, 2008 22:33:54 GMT -4
No Critter, he pushed me and DEMANDED it. He feels a common member cannot do much. He thinks you can only do more with more power. And he didn't let off until he got it.
It's also why I chose to relinquish my power. I set out to prove that common members can do anything, and that the abilty to accomplish what he wants with that power is completely dependant on us.
In effect, OT and I simply switched places for a time.
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Post by OT on Apr 29, 2008 22:44:27 GMT -4
In one way he cannot. He's not willing to be judged, and doesn't have sound reasoning ability. In this he failed. But he still has plenty of time to adapt. Yes, this is all very objective of you Zero. In the way that the only one who really has judged me so far did so a looong time ago. Who also promised not to get in my way, but what happened of that promise? No Critter, he pushed me and DEMANDED it. Nice way of you to rewrite history. I had left the forum, you might recall? If you hadn't moved a finger you would have gotten rid of me forever. (or for a long time at least) However, people have complained that they don't like it when we "fight". So from now on, don't expect to hear me respond to your comments, unless they directly regard the rules of the forum. Call it me being a bad admin, unable to have myself judged or whatever you want, but I'll be following what I think the people will benefit from.
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Post by critter on Apr 29, 2008 22:46:22 GMT -4
Well, I have seen him question your ways a lot, but I never have exactly seen him demand power himself. Is there any particular place he specially said he demanded power of you? I will be believing what I see with my own eyes, not what I'm told.
As for common members getting things they want done, that is dependent upon the forum's administration. If the administration is willing to listen to common members, then they can get things done. I've been ignored by admins of too many forums to believe common members could do anything. One forum in particular.. I had no effect on anything that went on there and you can't tell me otherwise. Despite being there sine that forum's beginning, it didn't matter if I was there or not. It didn't really matter what I said unless I was drawing pictures for other members. I constantly felt left out and ignored. Also, our own admin broke rules all the time, then banned people for doing the same as he had done. You can ask Bella if you like, she was a member of the same forum. My words are not fabricated lies. It was an unpleasant place and I'm glad we left it.
That's why I adore the idea of the admins listening to the members. This place seems different then the other forums I went to before because you both (Zero and OT) seem willing to listen.
Maybe OT felt his arguments with you were getting no where in the past, because as I said, common members can only have power if people will listen to them. Maybe that's why he felt so powerless. It is very easy to feel powerless as a common member, I have much experience with it. A common member's power all depends on the higher ups or other members listening to them. I'm sure you would understand, as you have talked about how no man can stand alone. That even as an admin, you felt you needed support from other members. Without support and power, there's nothing a person can do.
I'm going to stop typing now, because this post is getting too long. D<
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Post by Zero on Apr 29, 2008 22:56:09 GMT -4
In one way he cannot. He's not willing to be judged, and doesn't have sound reasoning ability. In this he failed. But he still has plenty of time to adapt. Yes, this is all very objective of you Zero. In the way that the only one who really has judged me so far did so a looong time ago. Who also promised not to get in my way, but what happened of that promise? No Critter, he pushed me and DEMANDED it. Nice way of you to rewrite history. I had left the forum, you might recall? If you hadn't moved a finger you would have gotten rid of me forever. (or for a long time at least) However, people have complained that they don't like it when we "fight". So from now on, don't expect to hear me respond to your comments, unless they directly regard the rules of the forum. Call it me being a bad admin, unable to have myself judged or whatever you want, but I'll be following what I think the people will benefit from. I haven't gotten in your way. I'm just critisizing how you are doing the same thing I did, but are ignoring the fact that I did so. You left stating you would never have the be equal. You came back only becuase you now had the power. What do you think that says about you? You critisized me for doing what I thought would benefit the people. Now here you are doing the exact same thing. I just want you to recognize that.
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