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Post by helterskelter on Dec 4, 2008 18:27:46 GMT -4
To those of you who have made the claim that we can make a change with this site, answer me a question. Do you honestly believe, out of the MILLIONS of internet forums out there, that this ONE STUPID PROBOARDS SITE is going to actually bear any significance upon the internet in general?
Yes, I'm repeating myself, but that's because I never received a true, direct answer to the question. Instead, I only received half-witted responses that bore no relevance to the conversation at hand. What are you thinking? I have to know. What kind of CHANGE are you trying to make? You say that this site is capable of so much, but you're not looking at REALITY. THIS IS A STUPID INTERNET FORUM. It is NOTHING more than that. Yet, you (and you know who you are) see it as some sort of vessel of worldly importance. I've noticed that the few who ARE capable of rational thought haven't said as much as I expected them to. WHERE IS THE LOGIC? I'll tell you where; it doesn't exist within the minds of those who have completely convinced themselves of the aforementioned fact (that being the "worldly importance" thing). None of you make any sense in what you're trying to say.
What? Are you implying that this single place is going to literally spin the whole fu.cking world on its axis and usher in some new age of internet forum activity? That's all I'm reading. That's the only thing that's being said by you, the unthinking majority. Also, a recruitment of new members is completely ludicrous. What are you to gain? The gradual loss of individualistic thought brought by those subjected to the intricate idiocies that weave a tangled web of unintelligible garbage within the confines of this single forum? It makes NO DIFFERENCE if this place lives or dies. It's not a life-changing matter. People come and go, or never come and look at porn or do something worthwhile. NO ONE WILL CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS. Why force them to carry the corpse of what YOU wrought? Others should never have to be pressured into joining this place, and I hope that all of you have the common sense to know that.
I honestly don't understand your so-called "logic." Logic is formed by intelligible thought that can be understood. What spews forth from your mouths is something completely devoid of it.
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Post by Zero on Dec 4, 2008 23:17:19 GMT -4
I'm not a good writer, so my thoughts do come off as vague. This is probably the best i can give you:
I do NOT believe this one forum will change the internet. that was NEVER my intention. I WANTED the people who come here to be comfortable with the forum. That is all.
In the past, I've been accused of being overly strict, or overbearing. You yourself have said so. So if I'm too strict, then no one will be comfortable. Therefore, someone who is NOT so strict can make everyone who is already here comfortable. Once again, That is all I want.
No, it won't raise activity, but it WOULD be nice if we had more activity, so it wouldn't be so slow. Recruitment is the wrong word to use. I most certainly NEVER TOLD anyone to join, but I DID INVITE. It's not like we held a gun to their heads.
If people are still joining, then we must be doing SOMETHING right.
This is as clear an answer I can give. Anything else you want to know?
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Post by helterskelter on Dec 5, 2008 0:29:03 GMT -4
Yes, this ONE post will immediately erase all other instances of your apparent trust that this site is a messiah to the internet. What you just said means nothing to me. It's nothing more than a thin veil trying to guise the truth behind everything else you've ever said related to the point I was trying to make.
And no, you weren't strict. You just SUCKED as an admin. You didn't DO anything.
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Post by Zero on Dec 6, 2008 14:37:07 GMT -4
You're a vindictive, self absorbed, irrational, pessimistic, self deluded LIAR. The trouble you have, you've wrought upon yourself and can't blame anyone else. There are so many who can't stand having you around. But of course that's why you do it on the internet. That's why you don't care. Because you can't be held accountable when no knows your face, or can't get more information on you. So you're a coward too. Even though there are others who are critical of me, they'll never stoop to your level. In that regard you are alone. And I did a lot. I help more people than you know, on AND off the forum. Your opinion of me, is nothing to me. It will NEVER be the truth.
But, yeah, that means nothing to you. You'll never stop. You've made that very clear.
Like you told me, "Some people just like to watch the world burn."
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Post by Zoomer on Dec 7, 2008 22:29:55 GMT -4
Though I haven't been here long, from the info I've taken from the various instances of conflict, this is the best assesment I have to give:
If you hate how this forum is run, nobody said you HAD to be part of it. What I'm getting here is that you are one of those people who like to find something to complain about. If you want a change, be part of the solution; don't just complain about it..... it just adds to the problem.
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Post by helterskelter on Dec 7, 2008 22:45:31 GMT -4
You're a vindictive, self absorbed, irrational, pessimistic, self deluded LIAR. The trouble you have, you've wrought upon yourself and can't blame anyone else. There are so many who can't stand having you around. But of course that's why you do it on the internet. That's why you don't care. Because you can't be held accountable when no knows your face, or can't get more information on you. So you're a coward too. Even though there are others who are critical of me, they'll never stoop to your level. In that regard you are alone. And I did a lot. I help more people than you know, on AND off the forum. Your opinion of me, is nothing to me. It will NEVER be the truth. But, yeah, that means nothing to you. You'll never stop. You've made that very clear. Like you told me, "Some people just like to watch the world burn." Bullsh.it. Now you're resorting to name calling? All you've ever done was try to convert people to the clique mentality you've established so well here. That's all you've succeeded in doing. A dictator, you could say. One who tries to gain as much power as he possibly can, and create a deluded, irrational group of followers hellbent on carrying out every order their master gives them. Believing that which spews from his mouth, destroying their own personae and leaving them with naught. That's all you do. That's all you've ever established this for.
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Post by Hunter on Dec 8, 2008 20:26:47 GMT -4
(All right. Time to put this thread out of my misery.)
"If you hate this place so much, why do you keep coming back?" Zero asked. "There are other websites on the Internet."
"Because I'm sick of you acting like a petty dictator," Ryota said. "I want to make sure you're not making anyone blindly kiss your ass."
"It's not blind," Zero responded angrily. "They know who I am, and they like it. What do you care anyway? Why do you care what people think of me?"
"Because they can't love you the way I love you!" Ryota shouted.
Silence filled the chat room for several seconds.
"That... that didn't come out right," Ryota mumbled.
"No, it's okay," Zero said, laying a hand on Ryota's shoulder. "I should have seen this coming. I just didn't expect it to happen so suddenly."
Ryota pulled away. "Stop, okay? Just forget it. Like you say, I shouldn't even be here. I'm simply a troll, messing with you guys for kicks."
"Bulls***," Zero said. "Trolls don't care about the places they hit. You care -- about this site, about me. Whatever's going on between us, we need to resolve it right here, right now."
"Oh, and how do you expect to do that?" Ryota asked.
"Isn't that obvious?" Zero grabbed Ryota's arm and pulled the man toward himself. The two were standing face-to-face. Zero hesitated for a moment. Then, with a sudden burst of confidence, he pressed his lips against Ryota's.
(Don't you ever make me do that again.)
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Post by helterskelter on Dec 8, 2008 23:14:30 GMT -4
I applaud. But no, I'm still not going to let this die. I have far too much to say. However, come Wednesday or so, I plan on leaving for good. I'll go to any lengths to prevent myself from returning. Until then, I'm going to argue for my cause.
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skulljack17
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Post by skulljack17 on Dec 10, 2008 0:49:52 GMT -4
You are free to do as you will, sir, but may I state something? I don't claim this to be the best place ever, nor do I expect to raise it to have such a high opinion generated toward it, considering the fickle nature of people and the Internet in general.
I am optimistic though, of that much you are right about, because there are good people here, even you, who if they are willing to do so can make this place better.
If you don't mind me asking, just what will you do if this forum is closed for good? And on the opposite end, what will your reaction be if the forum is revitalized by those who currently visit here, as well as those who may decide to come here? Thank you for your time.
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Post by skulljack17 on Dec 16, 2008 19:31:47 GMT -4
This may come off as sounding foolish, but I wish to state it.
The forum itself is a place where people express ideas, opinions, thoughts, dreams, where nearly all insight into the human condition itself can be found in the world today as a 'Global Village'. It isn't the very first, and it won't be the last. It doesn't matter though, because it is capable of holding all these things in it. It doesn't matter WHERE an important message comes from if it can change people's thinking, as long as the idea can reach others. That is one of the CENTRAL PURPOSES, even the POINT of a forum, where messages from one are able to reach others. Stating one does not have value is a rather interesting form of cognitive dissonance when made INSIDE the forum as well, because you are relying on the forum that you have so little faith in to spread this message. What does that tell us about you then?
It is not the forum that controls the message though, it is the people who use it. When someone speaks about a 'bad' forum, they are talking about the people who they interacted with on that forum, because without them nothing would happen. If you can talk about the forum as being bad, you may as well say everyone here is without value, including yourself. What kind of message are you sending as well, if you are unable to state exactly who is making things so 'unbearable' for you, because it is possible that you don't have a problem with others, but they have a problem with you, and knowing that you would choose to flee instead of addressing what is REALLY wrong.
Perhaps this forum will crash and burn, or the people coming here will choose to go elsewhere, and you'll laugh with a twisted sense of delight because YOU were right and THEY were wrong. You should know that it is the PEOPLE who will continue on despite this, with their own thoughts and wills that can continue what they did before on other places or in other ways. Despite everything you hate here, we can continue to meet with the other people who we get to know here, so everything you wish undone will continue. The only thing you have done is reveal yourself for what you are.
If you wish to ask to understand me, or ask me to understand you, just ask. If you wish to defend yourself, please do so. If you can explain things to me, I will listen, just as I would expect you to listen to me. That is why I came here. That is why this forum exists. I only ask that you allow me the same freedoms if we talk, and to speak to me with the respect all intelligent beings deserve, and that I feel that you deserve. If you give me no respect, then you can expect the same in kind.
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