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Post by Zero on Oct 23, 2009 19:01:46 GMT -4
I'm not thinking straight, and I'm blindly writing out of anger, so whatever comes, comes.
This isn't fair. Why am I the only one willing to put his reputation on the line? Why am I the only one will to sacrifice personal rights for the sake of others? And what do I get in return? Hate. Uncaring attitudes. Complaining. All I ever see and hear is the crying of weak and closed minds.
You may be thinking, "Why this?", "Why now?". Well, I've been brooding and struggling to deal with this Ryota crisis for the last month on a daily basis without rest. My head is killing me. My heart aches. And today... I'm snapping.
I'm only human after all. Don't I have the right to be angry and vent?
Ryota, WL, Tachyon... these 3 names have become synonymous with the word "stress". Ryota and his self-righteous irrationality. WL and her self centeredness. Tachyon with his partial attitude.
None willing play a part in peace. I've tried to reason over and over, hoping that somewhere in their hearts they'd be willing to make some kind of sacrifice. Despite all I've done, they couldn't even give me that. WL grew angry when I wanted to have mercy for Ryota, because she was oh so offended. Tach criticized me for caring for Ryota, someone he deemed unworthy of mercy. Ryota, raging at me for my wanting to reason with Tach and WL in spite of their lack of openness, and seeing my mercy as a sign of weakness. Damn him. Damn him for being right.
My light is burned out.
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Post by tachyon on Oct 23, 2009 23:17:28 GMT -4
What cheesed WL and myself off most was the lack of reaction by most to what Ryoyo was saying. For Gods sake he was calling her all manner of things and yet NOBODY said a thing. Are we all so afraid of rocking the boat that we'll look the other way just to preserve some manner of calm, or were we all afraid of getting involed because we did't want be hurt either. Sounds a lot like what I had to put up with in high school til I chose to put an end to it, and yes physically if you need it spelled out. Z, I'm sorry if I have hurt your feelings, but nobody else was going to stand up for Kayla. I regret nothing.
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Post by White Lightning on Oct 24, 2009 12:16:27 GMT -4
No offence Z but...
Like tach said, we where NOT gonna sit here while he was calling me everyting in the book. Something had to be done no matter what. And so what if it effects your "reputation". Ryota is just one person. What he thinks about anyone shouldn't ammount to a pile of beans. Besides, I'm sure everyone else out there is sick and tired of hearing his little 2-year-old fits. One last thing. Why didn't no one say anything when he was doing something wrong but me and Tach? Why? Do you simply choose to ignore him and that'll make him vanish? He wasn't gonna quit at all. No matter how many people ignored him.
Z, sorry if I ticked you off or hurt you, but thats my 2 cents and I'm sticking to it.
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Post by White Lightning on Oct 24, 2009 14:22:39 GMT -4
Yes. I banned him after the insult post. The thing is, Z thinks me, him and Tachyon could all get along one way or another, but that isn't going to happen if all Ryota wants to do is call us everything under the sun and insult our families as well.
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Post by Zero on Oct 24, 2009 15:52:31 GMT -4
How do you think I felt when no one came to help me? Got an answer for that? I had to struggle through that on my own, and eventually I did manage to put it to rest. Fact is, I shouldn't have had to.
Now here you are, the two of you declaring your own stubbornness. The thing about me is that I NEVER closed myself to anyone no matter what wrong they've done they've done to me. This includes people like Punkrobot and Chevelle. They said terrible things to me, but I never allowed my feelings of offense to block chances of reconciliation. Why can't you do that? Why hold on to hate? I'll tell you now, that reeks of pride and a massive lack of humility.
WL, your stubbornness hasn't just affected this situation, but your life as well. I know things are tough for you, and I feel for you. But you gotta do more than just cry out. You gotta do something about it. Learn how to cope, seek ways to help yourself. You can't keep relying on others, and the very least me. I wish you would be strong, but not closed up either. You need balance.
Tach, not much to say about you, but that you have been one-sided and made no real efforts to restore peace. You came across as a jerk. This true whether you know it or not. Even I can see that, but I chose to be polite. Lot of help that turned out.
Ignoring Ryota was not the thing to do. If you thought not communicating with him was the way to avoid a conflict, you were wrong. Refusing to communicate never helps. It's like Aurelius said, being ignored is worst than getting insulted. At least Ryota understood his bad behavior and tried to change it. He came back with a real desire to change. You didn't even acknowledge him. You never gave him a good chance.
And who reaps the hell in the aftermath? Me. Let me ask you, did you even think of me at all, or did you just want your own justice? I don't mean to come across self-centered, but it's something you should know. I have to think about everyone as I run this site, good or bad, with humility, compassion, impartiality, and conviction. Being in a position of power demands that kind of fairness. You both are in positions of power, and you're not doing a good job. It's not just me that thinks so. I have my own circle of friends that act as neutral observers that help me deal with these situations. I should strip you both of your positions.
Now here we are in opposition. Friends at each others throats. This needs to be fixed, and I refuse to do it alone.
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Post by Hunter on Oct 24, 2009 15:59:40 GMT -4
*pulls up a chair and a bag of popcorn*
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Post by Zero on Oct 24, 2009 16:44:46 GMT -4
*pulls up a chair and a bag of popcorn* Hey... beer me. I'm gonna need it for this.
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Post by Zoomer on Oct 24, 2009 16:58:08 GMT -4
What cheesed WL and myself off most was the lack of reaction by most to what Ryoyo was saying. For Gods sake he was calling her all manner of things and yet NOBODY said a thing. Are we all so afraid of rocking the boat that we'll look the other way just to preserve some manner of calm, or were we all afraid of getting involed because we did't want be hurt either. Sounds a lot like what I had to put up with in high school til I chose to put an end to it, and yes physically if you need it spelled out. Z, I'm sorry if I have hurt your feelings, but nobody else was going to stand up for Kayla. I regret nothing. Look, I tried to reason with him. I tried. You can't say you're the only one that did anything. I tried to convince him to keep his opinions to himself, to be a little more polite. But he just kept complaining about people not understanding him....OVER AND OVER AGAIN. He doesn't care what others really think of him, apparently, despite the fact that's what he's going on about. Besides, did WL really do anything in her own defense? Because during the whole thing, it seemed she didn't really care. She didn't respond to him (at least on the forum, I can't say otherwise). If it really bothered her, she should have said something. Anyway, sorry to butt in. Just sayin', is all. <_<
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Post by White Lightning on Oct 24, 2009 20:14:19 GMT -4
The reason why I never said he was really bothering me out loud was because I knew that if I said that, he'll insult me more, because he knows hes getting thought to me. I did do something about it. I banned him. It seemed as if he was never going to stop. I didn't cry. I took matters into my own hands with him. So did Tach. Oh yeah, and I did give him a chance and he blew it. He started right back to the same old stuff after feeling that he wants to make an improvment.
Now can we please stop this and let it be?! Ryota is gone now. Banned. Its all in the past now. Lets forget about him and this argument and get on with our lives. I'm already sick of this. Compleatly.
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Post by Zero on Oct 24, 2009 21:39:53 GMT -4
No Kay, this can't be let go. Not this time. Don't you realize how angry I am? This must be resolved, I don't care if it drags on for days, months, a whole damn year.
You're sick of it, I'm sick of it, most of us are(with the exception of those entertained by this). But running from it doesn't solve anything. We have to come to an agreement. Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
I'm calm now, but still angry.
The way I see it, the only way we're gonna come to and understanding is if we know more about each other, our lives, how we think, what we value. Why do we function the way we do? Haven't you ever thought of that? That's how we gain empathy. It clears our thinking, and can even stop us from being quick to be offended.
Kay, you banned him on a whim, for yourself. I've never even done that when I was attacked. I always used every possible method for peace even when under fire, with banning set as a final option. What did you do? Yeah he mocked me when I persisted in making peace, but I never quit until I was finally able to satisfy him. It is possible.
I'm not doing this to pick on you. I would never do that. I do it because I care, because I want you to be stronger, wiser. What's that thing I often cite in my fics? Oh yeah, "To be more than what you are."
Don't stress out over this. I just want you to think.
Don't shut me out. See this through.
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Post by White Lightning on Oct 25, 2009 0:56:05 GMT -4
On second thought...
You are right. I did ban him too fast. But there is still one tiny thing I am willing to know from him. Why am I always the target? Did he ever tell you why, or has he kept quiet about it? Maybe its something I can help work out myself. For the good.
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Post by zantafio25 on Oct 25, 2009 9:49:54 GMT -4
I have something to tell about Toad or Ryota. When my brother came on this forum, he send him a message that said not to talk to WL or Tachyon. That's all I have to say.
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Post by Zero on Oct 25, 2009 11:08:38 GMT -4
Yes, Kay, you will have have to find out for yourself. It won't be easy. It'll be stressful and a massive test of patience. But you must be persistent, slow to anger, and conduct yourself as a humble one, no matter how unreasonable he can be. Do it for peace.
Communicate, and maintain it. Don't shut down just because you feel insulted. You're 18, you need to start acting like an adult. And that means coping with disappointment and trials. Welcome to the real world.
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Post by tachyon on Oct 26, 2009 2:13:54 GMT -4
You do know that Ryota, unprovoked, was first to start by posting crap about WL. He just came in and started up. Has he ever explained his reasons for doing so?
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Post by zantafio25 on Oct 26, 2009 12:55:23 GMT -4
Everyone feeled the same as Ryota, it's just that we did not post our feelings. I'm not kidding. White Lighting just like to whine about her problems.
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