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Post by Zero on Oct 7, 2013 16:59:44 GMT -4
I think Nickelodeon screw with the scheduling too much, and advertised very little.
Not to mention that showdown fiasco.
I don't think they really cared.
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Post by swoop on Oct 8, 2013 12:45:23 GMT -4
Looking at it I am guessing that Nick didn't want to push the envelope. I took Avatar to do that. Maybe they do not know how to market it which is a robot hero but they hesitate when it is a girl. Look at Young Justice in the happy meals and see what was missing.
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Post by CartoonDork on Oct 8, 2013 17:36:28 GMT -4
Yeah, I don't think Nick cared much about MLaaTR to be honest. Looking back, it wasn't like it was a phenomenal show, but it was a good show and very underappreciated. It deserved more advertisement. Also, I do think it had a little something to do with the fact that the main character was a female, unfortunately. :x
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Post by Koith on Oct 8, 2013 20:25:59 GMT -4
The biggest thing that killed MLaaTR is only one: Profit.
Nick cared about their profits, that's the basics in the US economy. If MLaaTR or any shows receives lesser than they'd expected, they will replace with the juicier things even though there are lots of fans will angry or not.
Sorry if something feels like political in my words, but you guys who'd been RP'ed with me through my OCs like Koith, you might know who I'm supporting for.
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Post by swoop on Oct 9, 2013 16:16:36 GMT -4
Bad aim Koth a spread shot will not take away the problem. You need to be more accurate or you might hurt someone you didn't want to. It is not political you are just generalizing. I have been looking at any reviews that can be the reason that it wasn't loved. I found a few people put a few episodes in their worst episode but I am not sure. Viacom has a habit of taking out stuff so it hard for to be known. I heard from others that it was too by the numbers and there weren't enough moments that make an impact.
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Post by Zero on Oct 11, 2013 17:24:35 GMT -4
Huh, so right now Korra is the only animated female lead on Nick?
I tell you, since Nick went stale with thier shows, I've just stopped watching the channel all together.
We definitely could have used more back story in MLaaTR. Was Rob Renzetti like a dog that caught a car or something, that he couldn't do better with Jenny?
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Post by swoop on Oct 15, 2013 21:07:15 GMT -4
If we are to dissect the problem lets look at the time it was aired. It can argued that it was ahead of its time. If we are to look at the programs that were in the time MLAATR to see if had any effect on it. Pokemon had the edge on Digimon because it had Batman and Men In Black for the block. I think MLAATR was on at 9pm or maybe 7pm. I think Toonami was on at the time.
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Post by Zero on Oct 15, 2013 23:38:18 GMT -4
Yeah, MLaaTR was mainly on the TeenNick block.
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Post by swoop on Oct 16, 2013 13:33:34 GMT -4
Perhaps Nick was being spiteful for not having the rights for Mina and the Count.
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Post by Zero on Oct 16, 2013 21:08:28 GMT -4
^Now we're getting some juicy details.
And Rob taunted them with Misty being the closets they'll get if not better.
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Post by swoop on Oct 18, 2013 14:52:47 GMT -4
That wouldn't be surprising as the creator pushes the envelope with relationship usually of humongous age gap and made them work. the original title was my neighbor is a teenage robot. This series already had relationship with other species why not just do same sex.
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Post by swoop on Nov 12, 2013 14:02:11 GMT -4
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Post by buckmana on Nov 17, 2013 5:30:33 GMT -4
Wait a minute. One of the reasons they didn't respond to it properly is because Jenny is a girl?
I read an article about female lead characters in computer games and well, they're few and far between. Why? Because girls and women don't get to save the guy, that's a man's job (according to the article and the surveys conducted). In the most extreme case, one company had to fight for the right to have their female lead to be on the game case because the bosses decided gamers wouldn't buy it if there was a girl on the cover!
I'm now wondering if that applies to cartoons too?
Mind you, Kim Possible enjoyed a high level of success with a strong female lead.
For the record, MLaaTR is one of my top two rated Nick cartoons (the other one is Danny Phantom). And I'm hard to impress, so getting up there is no small achievement!
However, as always with Nick, I expect the true problem is marketing (or lack thereof). They seem to focus almost exclusively on the spongewhoshallnotnamed and just don't take the leap of faith to push Jenny and Danny into the spotlight.
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Post by drewmaster on Nov 29, 2013 11:39:14 GMT -4
It's been a while since I posted here, but here goes...
As much as I love the show and the potential it brought to the table, I hate to admit that it was an odd ball of a show. I say odd ball reluctantly.
Jenny being a girl is not where the problems start I think. I think it has more to do with her being a girl......robot.
To elaborate, a typical teenage girl trying to fit in show is fine when she's human, but since Jenny's a robot, I imagine many people out there ultimately couldn't relate to her, or trying to relate to her felt awkward to them, though I doubt a poll to prove that will ever be conducted in a practical way.
I also blame shows like "Whatever Happened to Robot Jones" for this kind of thing because it was so hard to take seriously, even a little bit. Most of us are used to robot lead characters being nothing but full-time warrior heroes, not school students. I guess when people saw Jenny for the first time, they were probably reminded of shows like Robot Jones.
Realizing these things is sad really. One of you said this show was probably before its time, and I agree. I remember when the original DBZ Budokai came out. I played it with my friends and I remember telling them that I could see into the future far enough to know that Bodukai 1 was just a test for the development of later games just like it. If Mlaatr was before it's time, then the category of female robot teens ultimately proved to be, to this day, in its infant or test stages.
In short, I think we have a long way to go before this category fits more nicely into the norm.
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Post by TheRealBullet on Nov 29, 2013 23:17:18 GMT -4
Another thing to consider too is the fact that Nick's-and therefore MLaaTR's target demographic was a younger audience. The show dealt greatly with the rather complex emotional consequences of social hierarchy and alienation felt by many teenagers. And that could be the problem. The show dealt with many issues that for the most part, the target audience couldn't relate to. Ultimately, it really does all come down to money. If the show isn't able to get the ratings, whether its own fault or not, Nickelodeon (or any company for that matter) can't keep it if the return is not enough to make the investment worth it.
By the way, Drewmaster; I must mention that I love your series. It's one of my favorites out there.
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