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Post by shay on Jan 18, 2007 3:58:46 GMT -4
Ok... Today was the final stray, Zero... you are getting way out of control with your rules...
Zero, there is a difference between protecting the youngens and cruesading... An now your just using your position to advance your agenda, for you it's not about the kids at all. It's about your selfish wants....
No one here complains about inuendos cept for you, hell the show is infested with sexual inuendos... Some that make me say "Did they just say that?"
I've been telling you that you are killing this forum, and by god I am right. Your rules about inuendos are rediculus, and passing mature links over PM (PRIVATE MESSAGE) is invasion of privacy...
I've tried my best to help save this forum, it's heading to it's certain doom. Slowly but surely, other members will begin to realize how hard headed and over opinionated you are and then leave you to the wasteland that is Tremorton.
With that said... Me and Brandy... We got some yiffing to get back to... Try not to grow up youngens, or you may be banned from the forum...
Talk at yall at another time, and another place
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Post by Zero on Jan 18, 2007 4:13:13 GMT -4
So it's done.
Done anyone here agree with him?
Am I killing the forum?
Is Tremorton a wasteland like he said?
*sigh*
You don't have to use mature themes to be grownup. Those have thier places, just not here. Is that so hard to ask?
All this drama becuase of ONE malicious post.
Does placing such rules make me selfish?
If what he says is true, then I'm not fit to lead this forum.
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Post by Shelltoon on Jan 18, 2007 4:22:41 GMT -4
Tremorton is not a wasteland... It's a home for us all. If it wasn't for Tremorton, I would never have been this motivated to show my love for MLaaTR. I would have been stuck in the closet, and never come out about my love for the show. XJ-0, you are not selfish for placing rules that protect the minors. I deal with forums that have rules more strict, and I've yet to see them die because of the rules. Even if people stopped coming here all together, I'd still visit, just to hope that somebody would show up.
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Post by PixelShader on Jan 18, 2007 7:23:57 GMT -4
So you are asking for feedback? The problem is: It's hard to set a limit where the mature starts and the "normal" ends. This "Edge" were taken loose so far. good. the rules seem to be hard but we are considerate, still limits HAS to be set. I just gone through the rules one more time and: no: there is nothing to claim about. As long as I'm on this forum I always wondered your self-confidence in making decisions. As long as I'm here I didn't witness wrong decisions. one word: respect If some guy think nobody visits us because there is no ability to post p0rn... sounds rediculous? It is! If people really demand that, XJ-0, you could open a new forum "mature" but is that really necessary? Not for me. The real reason why nobody comes is - well it's hard to admit but still everybody of us know it's true - we are the minority, the minority who like MLaaTR. yet not knowing where the reason is (bad promotion or bad show) but this - is an other story...
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Post by wichobot on Jan 18, 2007 12:54:40 GMT -4
Agree. I consider that "self responsability" is a good way for manage a forum, you know, there's a personal limit that says "you can" and "you can't"... even without any kind of rules.
I never saw in this forum "evil" people trying to damage the forum... even Shay had his own limits (when he isn't angry... btw, was he banned again?).
And yes, we're a minority... and it's normal because there's a line between the future & the past. Sadly, we're reaching the past line but our hope keep us in the other side.
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Post by Zero on Jan 18, 2007 17:41:33 GMT -4
I had always had conficence in myself, but Chevelle currently is the ONLY person that has been able to shake it. I had always feared him being right.
Another fear of mine, would be if I disappointed everyone. Sometimes I believe I have. Somehow in some way I may have been blind to a personal flaw all along. A flaw that was hurting people. I just don't know. My fighting with him may have also shaken everyones trust in me. This hurts my confidence.
Chevelle left the forum willingly, after which I banned his IP and all possible screen names of his the prevent him from coming back. The possibilty that some may feel I acted unjustly hurts my confidence.
It is becuase we are a minority that I protect the forum from anything that my tarnish it, namely smut. But Chevelle blames ME for the decline here. This too hurts my confidence.
This is not the man I want to be. I wanna be Zero again. I wanna be that boy that had wisdom beyond his years that gave light to those who needed it most.
I want to be a hero again.
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Post by White Lightning on Jan 18, 2007 18:12:10 GMT -4
To me, you're doing the right thing. You're stoping sexualy oritented people from being like that to us, the youth, even though some of us may be over 18. You're doing such a good job at it! Do NOT let someone like Chev take away your comfidence. What someone says about you that you think is bad dosen't matter! What DOSE matter is what WE think of you! I look up to you, like a Superman, or Captian America. You protect the innocent (us), from the currptors. Your brave, willing to make sacrifices, change the world, protect. You changed my life after TH fell. You're my brother...it my not me blood, but we are related. We're all related. You showed me the light of a better me, and you DO have wisdom far beyond you're years.
To me, you're MORE than a hero.
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Post by Hunter on Jan 18, 2007 19:20:07 GMT -4
I had always had conficence in myself, but Chevelle currently is the ONLY person that has been able to shake it. I had always feared him being right. Being right and being a [jerk] are two separate things. Let him complain all he wants: at the end of the day, we'll keep coming to your forum, and he'll keep being a friggin' furry. (Fun Fact: on the Internet, furries rank just below pedophiles for respectability.) Look, there are already plenty of places for MLaaTR pr0n. Anyone with two brain cells and Google can find 'em quite easily, thank you very much. (I know I have.) You certainly don't need to open this place up to every last sick f*** on the Web just so a certain, particularly whiny, sick f*** can get his fix without condescending to open a new window. Good riddance to bad people, I say.
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Post by Champ on Jan 18, 2007 20:16:11 GMT -4
Zero, there's a little thing your going to find about being an admin. It takes away from how much people view you as being wise beyond your years. Because your not the wise man who isn't in a seat of power, your the leader. And that's not bad. I think you've done well as an admin. Your judgement is just, and you've set up a system of power that will probably prevent you from making a devestating mistake. Don't let one person's opinion of you hurt you. In this world of ours, there will always be people that view our acts as wrong. It's something we have to deal with.
My opinion on this situation was always against maturely oriented art, at the very least. I think you may want to be leniant on the innuendos deal, but you've been leniant on several other rules and I trust your judgement. There is a place where you can tolerate sexual material, but this forum is not that place. We have a young base of members, and we don't need them to see any twisted images of MLAATR characters. It's not sheltering people from the real world, it's keeping a place for fans respectable. You wouldn't let a thirteen year old buy playboy, so why let them see cartoon images that have the same effect on this site? Or read stories that describe sexual acts? This might just be my upbringing, but I was raised to believe that there are things that shouldn't be in the mainstream of anything.
And don't feel bad about this forum going down. As Cuchlain of the Hatrack forums has said in many forms, the problem with running a show/book/movie based forum, is that when your not in the spotlight, not many notice you. That is the case with MLAATR, and as such, our member base suffers. We're still better than Hatrack, we were down to four members over there for a while. Don't give up Zero, because as you can see, a great deal of people still support you, and I just went on a straight up rant to explain why your right, and one area where you can improve. Notice that I only gave one example. That shows how well your doing, when I don't have to list four areas for improvement when I'm bein honest.
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Post by omnios on Jan 18, 2007 21:24:33 GMT -4
I think that you should take the rules down and let people do whatever they want. If they wanna post some Jenny smut, then let 'em. I've seen things on the Internet that would make a person's eyes boil, and trust me, it's not pretty.
Take Gamefaqs, for instance, they have the no-porn rule, but everything more-or-less goes.
There's one thing though....I'm desensitised to it. Nothing bothers me, unless it affects me directly.
That's my two cents.
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Post by wichobot on Jan 18, 2007 22:36:44 GMT -4
OK, OK, people. I saw two situations here:
- People who thinks like adults.
- People who thinks like kids.
And the question is: "Adult content in the Tremorton Forum?"
Many of us have teen & adult ages... and many of us have child ages.
So, the real question could be "Responsable adult content in the Tremorton Forum?"
I know that this is impossible but in what degree of responsability could we take care of our own content?
I wanna be Zero again. I wanna be that boy that had wisdom beyond his years that gave light to those who needed it most. You already are Zero... but sometimes you need to act as David B. for preserve the forum... In fact, we're getting a mustache and a beard... don't get dissapointed or confused about your acts. You must feel what is good and what's not good for the forum.
Maybe everybody is agree and disagree about the kind of showed and unshowed content on the forum (I dunno, because everybody is different), but you should find a balance between those parts (good and bad ones) and you'll get something really nice! Anyway, we aren't 100% good or 100% bad.
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Post by Champ on Jan 18, 2007 22:47:50 GMT -4
I think that you should take the rules down and let people do whatever they want. If they wanna post some Jenny smut, then let 'em. I've seen things on the Internet that would make a person's eyes boil, and trust me, it's not pretty. Take Gamefaqs, for instance, they have the no-porn rule, but everything more-or-less goes. There's one thing though....I'm desensitised to it. Nothing bothers me, unless it affects me directly. That's my two cents. The problem with having that attitude when your an admin, is that if you adopt that stance it all goes to hell. As TH showed, if admins don't do their job the forum falls apart. As much as I love punk music, anarchy doesn't work. We need order in this world, and we need a way to keep people in line. Just because some things don't effect you doesn't mean we should let people do what they want on this forum. There are those who haven't been exposed to these kind of things, and I for one would like to make sure they aren't exposed to it for the first time on this forum. There is a time and a place for everything, this is not the place, and there is no time for it.
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Post by retsofnoraa on Jan 19, 2007 0:20:18 GMT -4
WHY CAN'T ANYONE TREAT ANYBODY EQUALLY HERE?
ZERO - I see nothing bad happening with the forum; in fact, I say that it's improved. However, he does have a point in keeping your personal beliefs out of the forum.
SHAY - I've got one foot on the platform and the other on the train, buddy. First, you're right about keeping the forum friendly to all types. However, I don't think you're getting it. There is a difference between being an "adult" and having an interest in "XXX" materials. Heck, I do, and I don't consider myself at all worthy of a 'mature' status; I'm loud, annoying, have folds of blubber from here to Texas and I'm immature. When I do say stuff about it, I get in trouble on here just like you, but I accept it and move on, because he's the boss here and I respect him. Still, I want to respect you, too, so don't take this harshly; I'm just ticked at nearly everyone right now.
HUNTER - So Chevelle/Shay/Midnight is into furries. So what? He does have his opinion, and you have yours, but does that give you the right to smack him to the floor and declare total righteousness over the heathen? No.
I'm not going to take sides here, because deep down, I still believe that getting along is possible. We're all human beings right?
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Post by Zero on Jan 19, 2007 1:59:05 GMT -4
Oh my god. This is just overwhelming.
I had always thought I was alone in this conflict. But when I began to fall, all of you caught me before I could hit the ground. You raised me to my feet and now have reinvigorated me to my former state.
My guilty conscience is gone and now I can think clearly.
Thank you all so much!
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Post by White Lightning on Jan 19, 2007 13:52:58 GMT -4
Anytime, brother. We're always here for you. *hugs* Thats what my signature is for. A reminder to all my friends that I'm here for them! Now, lets all have a nice goup hug!
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